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Re: " You cannot have been always at longbourn!"

May 09, 2016 02:07PM
All interesting comments Agnes, particularly the one about native speakers (Your English is excellent) . You see, English people, beyond schooldays and the few who take degrees in it, don't learn the English language because it is their native tongue (as you own is) used every day by everyone. I actually learned far more about English from studying Spanish, particularly things like the subjunctive. I'm not sure just how much English study Jane Austen did (presumably, a fair amount) but it is actually rather surprising to find the apostrohe t ('t) in can't instead of the more formal can not or cannot. Again, we don't (do not?) always speak as per textbooks because of slang terms, regional accent differences and those dreaded class levels. ( this doesn't just apply to one language, but most: a footman would hardly speak the same way as his Lord and Master) Because of this, many "rules" are either ignored or become flexible in application. The internet and text speak have become the worst enemies of the English language. Back to the question..(-:

I think this might be quite relevant in context:

"Mr. Darcy drew his chair a little towards her, and said, "You cannot have a right to such very strong local attachment. You cannot have been always at Longbourn.". ( to make that real question he could have added "surely?" on the end, but is that an ommision from Darcy, or a deliberate "sort it out for yourselves" moment from J.A.?

Why did he move closer to Lizzy at that stage? Was he in some way encouraged by the topic? The mood was very fleeting as he soon moved away, but was he toying with proposing right there and then and didn't get the encouragement he hoped for?
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Jim G.MMay 08, 2016 01:38PM

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KentMay 10, 2016 07:06PM

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Suzanne OMay 10, 2016 02:54PM

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Jim G.MMay 10, 2016 06:20PM

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Suzanne OMay 10, 2016 07:48PM

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Jim G.MMay 10, 2016 10:09PM

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Agnes BeatrixMay 09, 2016 11:23AM

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Rae ElaineMay 10, 2016 11:56PM

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Mari A.May 11, 2016 06:59AM

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Sarah WaldockMay 09, 2016 07:49PM

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Jim G.MMay 09, 2016 11:07PM

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Agnes BeatrixMay 10, 2016 06:44AM

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PeterMay 09, 2016 04:39PM

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Jim G.MMay 09, 2016 02:07PM

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RebeccaLSMay 08, 2016 03:59PM

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Jim G.MMay 08, 2016 06:28PM

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Jean M.May 08, 2016 05:48PM

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Rae ElaineMay 09, 2016 12:48AM

But Darcy doesn't know that about the Gardiners at that point in the novel.

GracielaMay 09, 2016 07:01PM

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Jim G.MMay 09, 2016 11:04AM

This has always been my interpretation as well. (nfm)

PeterMay 09, 2016 12:08AM

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Rae ElaineMay 08, 2016 03:11PM

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MichelleAMay 08, 2016 05:37PM

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Jim G.MMay 08, 2016 10:48PM

Re: I read it that way too, Michelle (nfm)

Sarah WaldockMay 08, 2016 07:46PM

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Jim G.MMay 08, 2016 06:57PM



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