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Re: Were Lizzie or Darcy really good catches?

April 30, 2016 01:31PM
Jim,
1. Whether they might have married someone else (my answer below was yes) doesn't change the fact that they are good together as a couple.
2. Yes, in Austen's world, love ( romantic love that makes us think the other person is a soulmate and the only one to share a lifetime with) wasn't the primary reason to get married. Marriage was the means for the woman to support herself and get financial security preferably for a lifetime; for the man, the means of begetting heirs and continue the family line, secure the wealth of the family for the next generation, and filing the role of mistress of the house/estate. Obviously, a woman was a fool to marry without her future being assured (to a man too poor to keep her in the lifestyle she aimed at), and her family was also a fool to give her to such a man. Hence, Mr. Collins was a suitable marriage prospect for most Merytonian girls and families.
3. True, Elizabeth doesn't choose Darcy out of a circle of suitable suitors ("competition"). I suppose this is where Peter's story prompted this discussion (I don't want to talk about that situation since I dind not read the story and don't want to turn the discussion that way). However, she was not in a hurry and might have afforded to wait if she did not want to marry Darcy, especially at the end of the novel when the marriage of Jane and Bingley assured the family they won't fall into genteel poverty.
4. I find it strange that you think Elizabeth only (or even primarily) married Darcy because he saved Lydia. Yes, Darcy had the means to do it but the point is, he had the intention, the determination to do it for Elizabeth's sake (remember, she thought he was happy not to be connected to the family after their fall from respectability and not to become related to Wickham - it might have been a choice but for the fact he loved her).
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Were Lizzie or Darcy really good catches?

Jim G.MApril 28, 2016 03:14PM

Please, the character's name was Lizzy, not Lizzie (nfm)

Margaret FMay 04, 2016 09:47PM

It was Elizabeth actually, but hey-ho..(-: N.F.M

Jim G.MMay 04, 2016 10:23PM

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AmytatApril 30, 2016 06:26AM

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Jim G.MApril 30, 2016 12:42PM

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AmytatMay 01, 2016 04:16AM

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Jim G.MMay 01, 2016 12:32PM

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AmytatMay 02, 2016 05:07AM

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Jim G.MMay 02, 2016 02:05PM

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AmytatMay 03, 2016 01:44AM

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Jim G.MMay 03, 2016 07:48PM

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AmytatMay 03, 2016 10:02PM

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PeterMay 04, 2016 01:39AM

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AmytatMay 04, 2016 10:35PM

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Jim G.MMay 04, 2016 01:02PM

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PeterMay 04, 2016 03:21PM

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Jim G.MMay 04, 2016 06:49PM

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PeterMay 03, 2016 11:37AM

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Agnes BeatrixMay 01, 2016 04:32PM

Just a thought

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Agnes BeatrixApril 30, 2016 01:31PM

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Jim G.MApril 30, 2016 03:12PM

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Agnes BeatrixApril 30, 2016 08:12PM

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Jim G.MApril 30, 2016 10:29PM

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Agnes BeatrixApril 29, 2016 10:09PM

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Jim G.MApril 30, 2016 12:08AM

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Agnes BeatrixApril 30, 2016 07:40AM

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PeterApril 28, 2016 11:09PM

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Jim G.MApril 29, 2016 12:04AM

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PeterApril 29, 2016 01:04AM

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Jim G.MApril 29, 2016 11:44AM

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PeterApril 29, 2016 01:40PM

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Jim G.MApril 29, 2016 02:20PM

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Rae ElaineApril 28, 2016 09:28PM

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Jim G.MApril 28, 2016 10:41PM

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AmytatApril 30, 2016 06:19AM

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Jim G.MApril 28, 2016 06:17PM

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Sarah WaldockApril 29, 2016 02:20PM

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Jim G.MApril 29, 2016 06:35PM

The entire point of P&P

Femme MalheureuseApril 29, 2016 08:26PM

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Jim G.MApril 29, 2016 08:42PM

Want, Need, Love

Femme MalheureuseApril 29, 2016 10:05PM

Where Mr. Collins says anything about holding hands or kissing?

GracielaApril 29, 2016 07:18PM

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Jim G.MApril 29, 2016 08:17PM



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