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Re: Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

Redson
April 22, 2015 12:40AM
First, Jim G.M., let me repeat what I said several times: I am not arguing that Darcy was gay, rather, that his behavior might been suspect. People might have thought based on evidence that his coldness toward women was not snobbishness but true disinterest. As you mention regarding Elizabeth

Jim G.M Wrote:
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He doesn't try to get her into bed, he wants her
> to be his wife.

Precisely! Any man of his rank in Regency society needed a wife for appearances. At 27 or 28, Darcy was relatively mature for not having chosen a wife yet. With his money, rank and advantages, why wait? And, certainly, there were women of rank, connections and dowry who would have entered into the kind of alliance with Darcy that many Regency marriages were. People married for advantage rather than love -- so what was Darcy waiting for? Was he waiting for love, or perhaps he had already found and wanted to create circumstances that would allow him to enjoy freely.

Really, looking at it in a certain light, what in the world in the way Elizabeth Bennet had always treated him would make Darcy think she loved him? She did not even treat him as if she liked him, but maybe that would not have mattered if he was gay. In this line of reasoning, it was good that she had so little to offer in the way of money or family because her financial neediness would almost certainly make her grateful for his attention, and willing to leave him alone in a way that a more powerful bride from a more powerful family would not. He could easily have thought practicality and reason would carry the day with her, and was, therefore, very surprised when she turned him down.


> He also declared he
> had seen Bingley fall in love many times, hardly
> the actions of a loving pair of gay caballeros?

Again, actually, yes. The men most eager to cover a secret might attempt to appear exactly opposite. Both Darcy in saying Bingley was constantly falling in love, and Bingley himself, if indeed he was really behaving this way.

Given how fast Bingley dropped his interest in Jane at Darcy's instigation, one can only suspect that his love affairs never got very far. He did not have the confidence to oppose Darcy, and Darcy also found something wrong with any woman Bingley might select.

Don't get your panties in a bunch. This is just one theory of how certain events in the book could be explained. Kinda fun to explore...
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"...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

RedsonApril 19, 2015 01:50PM

Consider a third party's input as a factor

Femme MalheureuseApril 21, 2015 08:34PM

Re: Consider a third party's input as a factor

AmytatApril 21, 2015 11:50PM

Elizabeth was uncertain - why not Mr. Bennet as well?

Femme MalheureuseApril 22, 2015 01:09AM

Re: Elizabeth was uncertain - why not Mr. Bennet as well?

AmytatApril 22, 2015 01:47AM

Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

RedsonApril 21, 2015 09:59PM

Re: Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

AmytatApril 22, 2015 12:03AM

Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

RedsonApril 22, 2015 12:31AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

Jim D.April 27, 2015 06:17AM

Chapter 45

AmytatApril 27, 2015 08:14PM

Re: Chapter 45

Jim D.April 27, 2015 10:43PM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

RedsonApril 27, 2015 11:55AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

Jim D.April 27, 2015 10:45PM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

RedsonApril 28, 2015 12:32AM

Sorry to cause confusion!

AmytatApril 28, 2015 01:04AM

No problem, Amytat. I only brought it up for Jim D's sake. (nfm)

RedsonApril 28, 2015 02:16AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

Jim D.April 28, 2015 12:44AM

But that would not explain why Darcy wanted to marry Elizabeth.

GracielaApril 22, 2015 10:07PM

as a fanfic plot...

Harvey S.April 22, 2015 09:45PM

Re: as a fanfic plot...

RedsonApril 22, 2015 11:36PM

Re: as a fanfic plot...

Jim D.April 27, 2015 06:32AM

Plot bunnies--or maybe, plot skunks?

RedsonApril 27, 2015 12:05PM

Re: Plot bunnies--or maybe, plot skunks?

Jim D.April 27, 2015 10:51PM

Re: Plot bunnies--or maybe, plot skunks?

RedsonApril 28, 2015 02:25AM

Re: Plot bunnies--or maybe, plot skunks?

Jim D.April 28, 2015 03:55AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

Agnes BeatrixApril 22, 2015 11:26AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

RedsonApril 23, 2015 12:47AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

Agnes BeatrixApril 23, 2015 11:51AM

To clarify somewhat better...

Agnes BeatrixApril 23, 2015 12:11PM

Re: To clarify somewhat better...

RedsonApril 23, 2015 04:20PM

Okay, Agnes, let me try again

RedsonApril 23, 2015 04:32PM

Re: Okay, Agnes, let me try again

Agnes BeatrixApril 23, 2015 08:31PM

If we’re talking about potential fanfiction

AmytatApril 25, 2015 03:22AM

Re: If we’re talking about potential fanfiction

Jim D.April 27, 2015 06:36AM

Re: If we’re talking about potential fanfiction

Jim G.MApril 27, 2015 10:47AM

Robinson and Man Friday

Agnes BeatrixApril 27, 2015 08:47PM

Re: Robinson and Man Friday

Jim G.MApril 27, 2015 10:29PM

Re: Robinson and Man Friday

Agnes BeatrixApril 28, 2015 09:50AM

Re: Robinson and Man Friday

Jim G.MApril 28, 2015 11:55AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

AmytatApril 22, 2015 01:25AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

RedsonApril 23, 2015 12:19AM

Re: Yes, but again employing my renegade reasoning...

AmytatApril 24, 2015 12:59PM

I meant so would he also be in good hands (nfm)

RedsonApril 22, 2015 12:34AM

* snort! * (nfm) (nfm)

Femme MalheureuseApril 22, 2015 12:51AM

Re: Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

Harvey S.April 21, 2015 11:13PM

Glad to provide some food for thought

Femme MalheureuseApril 22, 2015 12:50AM

Re: Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

Jim G.MApril 21, 2015 10:29PM

Re: Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

RedsonApril 22, 2015 12:40AM

Re: Now you have got me thinking outside the box--or boxer briefs--again

Jim G.MApril 22, 2015 10:52AM

Oh, then I was confused,

AmytatApril 22, 2015 02:32AM

It's a confusing subject, hard to keep it straight winking smiley

RedsonApril 22, 2015 03:19AM

Re: It's a confusing subject, hard to keep it straight winking smiley

AmytatApril 24, 2015 12:53PM

Re: It's a confusing subject, hard to keep it straight winking smiley

RedsonApril 25, 2015 02:13AM

Re: It's a confusing subject, hard to keep it straight winking smiley

MarionApril 22, 2015 11:41PM

Is that true about Catholic priests? They only look at women...

RedsonApril 23, 2015 12:27AM

Life in England in 1813

Jim G.MApril 22, 2015 11:51AM

And what would be that "incontrovertible evidence"?

GracielaApril 22, 2015 04:46AM

Re: And what would be that "incontrovertible evidence"?

AmytatApril 23, 2015 12:05AM

Ha, ha! I read your story and was wondering

GracielaApril 23, 2015 05:40PM

Can't write what one can't conceive

Femme MalheureuseApril 22, 2015 12:26AM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Jean M.April 20, 2015 10:25PM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

MarionApril 20, 2015 01:49AM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Redson26April 20, 2015 02:45AM

Apologies--I mistyped my name as Redson 26

RedsonApril 20, 2015 11:22AM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Jim D.April 19, 2015 03:09PM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

RedsonApril 19, 2015 05:23PM

Okay, I have re-read my argument... (closing words?)

RedsonApril 20, 2015 11:46AM

Re: Okay, I have re-read my argument... (closing words?)

AmytatApril 21, 2015 12:09AM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

AmytatApril 19, 2015 09:22PM

one more thought Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

AmytatApril 19, 2015 11:00PM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Jim D.April 19, 2015 08:53PM

Oh, wow!

Jim G.MApril 19, 2015 06:33PM

And to add to that...

RedsonApril 19, 2015 05:31PM

JA wouldn't have discussed such a topic...

Janice H.April 19, 2015 07:34PM

Really?

RedsonApril 19, 2015 09:30PM

Re: Really?

Janice HApril 23, 2015 02:58PM

Re: Really?

Jim G.MApril 19, 2015 10:02PM

Re: Really?

RedsonApril 19, 2015 10:21PM

Re: Really?

Jim G.MApril 19, 2015 11:15PM

Re: JA wouldn't have discussed such a topic...

GabbyCApril 19, 2015 09:12PM

Re: JA wouldn't have discussed such a topic...

RedsonApril 19, 2015 10:05PM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Jim G.MApril 19, 2015 03:01PM

Re: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

AmytatApril 19, 2015 10:11PM

Remember/: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

Rae ElaineApril 19, 2015 09:04PM

Re: Remember/: "...Not that there's anything wrong with that."

RedsonApril 19, 2015 10:42PM



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